Giant's Hole, above Crabwalk — at Peak District. Philip Sargent: you rigged the scramble down to the crabwalk ?!? What foolery is this? It's a lovely free climb. Radost Waszkiewicz: People had options to just climb if they wanted :) Some did ;) Philip Sargent: I've taken rank novices down there on their first caving trip. Yes, they whinged a bit, but yes they had a better sense of achievement afterwards. Sophie Anne Draper: Having more than once fallen very painfully off a free-climb, I hate them. I get no sense of achievement from them, just a sense of shitting myself that this will be the time I really break something. I wasn't on this trip, but I probably would've appreciated the rigging.